They are equally effective. I found some evidence of old termite damage and in removing that wood found some live termites on a piece of wood that was contacting the ground. Thanks for any help Uh.. wouldnt that defeat the purpose of non-repellant poisons like Termidor? I see alot of people pushing what they sell on here. All Animal Care , Shop All There were a lot of hurt feelings in the industry from those that did not get selected, therefore they badmouth Sentricon every chance they get. Altriset has a lower toxicity profile towards children and pets - it is not debilitating to bees, fish and earthworms. Is this common and does Sentricon also kill ant colonies? Do you think it would be feasible for me to persuade a local company to use Altriset for the first time for my application? It is non-toxic for humans, pets, or other insects, and has a long-term effect. However, cheaper is only a better deal if the product isnt inferior. Would any of you tell me what the going rate would be to inject termidor around a total of 184 linear feet of house foundation including approximately 60 linear ft that is concrete(driveway, back patio and along inside wall of attached garage)? It goes under the ground. Eastern subterranean termites are everywhere. If you want real protection talk to a family owned company. Altriset has an active ingredient called Chlorantraniliprole which makes it so powerful and effective at termite infestation. Thank you Jim, yes they do check the baits every 2 months. The Sentricon customers that had live termite damage was on 4 of the call backs and the repairs were made much to our customers surprise. I consider my home of average size, 1,600 sq feet. Ron could you please post the link about Do Nan Yao Su saying that Sentricon is only 20% effective against subterranean termites? You are welcome to your biased opinion as to how effective Sentricon is, however, my opinion, having worked with both products is that they are equally effective. I have been sent in to clean up to many of there messes. If you want a green treatment, you might consider spot treating the infested area with Altriset (a Dupont product), then installing Sentricon. For years, homeowners have been looking for a green solution for their termite problems. And they are all equally effective. Every study I have seen all say that within 90 days of a treatment with Termidor there is no living termites within an acre of the average size home. This forum discussion has been very valuable so I thank all of you who have shared your insights and experience with me. WebTERMIDOR HE HIGH EFFICIENCY TERMITICIDE Revision date : 2014/10/01 Page: 6/11 Version: 1.0 (30629254/SDS_CPA_US/EN) Vapour pressure: approx. Termidor SC is the Suspended Concentrate, which is a liquid concentrate. This new technology has proven to move 2.5 times further in the soil than the industry standard. I guess I just want to know the process of how it all works. We call our pest control company and they install bait stations in our bathrooms. The polymer then dissipates and thus allows the fipronil to bind to the soil. I am concern with roof damage. There is labor and material and expertise involved in each Sentricon Installation. The termites came back the next spring and it took us the whole summer to get the fly by night pest controller back to retreat. Most pest control companies use bait technology these days. No one has mention anything about the content of the contract . Every chemical has some sort of breakdown period. Slabs and homes with high water tables tend to be better situations for Sentricon. Without having any other bids for Termidor, what should be a reasonable cost?? The ESP will sense if there are termites or too much moisture. Termidors active ingredient, Fipronil, is the same ingredient used in many flea and tick control products like Frontline. Thats a savings I like, and I dont have to worry about termites finding some sticks in the ground. Let me guess; $1200.00 to install and $400.00/year to renew. Sentricon is more environmentally friendly. If a company wants to charge for a yearly inspection with no initial treatment, run away from them as fast as you can Terminix is now selling a program called T.I.P. Cade, dont argue with me; argue with Stoy Hedges PhD. We got a recent quote from Terminx, the program costs about $359 a yr as long as no termites are found within a 5ft barrier of the house. I dont like having to drill holes in the concrete. Termidor costs about $50 more than Sentricon up front, but the annual contract, which covers monitoring, periodic reapplication (if necessary) and repair of any termite damage is about $150 less for Termidor as compared to Sentricon. The first batch of termites coming in contact with the product would pass through it, ingest and get it inside their bodies. Ants love to get in those systems, and once there, termites will never enter them again. If your local Terminix is a franchise it may be O.K., if it is not a franchise STAY AWAY. Mostly because they are mostly controlled by Orkin and Terminix here in WV,they both have honorary VP seats .I have never been turned down by Dow/Sentricon, I turned them down! I am an HOA president of a condo association in the panhandle of Florida. I own a family-owned pest management firm in Kansas City and have personally been doing pest management since June of 1969. Here is a follow up to my swarm problem.. My termite guy came back and explained to me the problem which makes perfect sense. Thanks, Jim. As for the service intervals of baiting (and more specifically, Sentricon), quarterly works just fine. The exterior should be enough, but you might want to have a bath trap installed if there are any bath tubs in your basement. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil as there is way too much spam to moderate things manually. My point is that if a homeowner has termites eating their home RIGHT now, they should NOT rely on a baiting system ALONE to entice them to stop. I have 3 quotes for the Sentricon System that include the Initial Installation + Quarterly Monitoring of the Sentricon Stations for the 1st Year. Do your research and find out everything you can about these types of products, and any other termite control methods, then make your choice based on what you find out. Some companies will offer cheaper products such as talstar which is fine for conventional but not for slab. Different companies do the payments in different ways. Id rather use both types of bait alternating in 10 feet intervals and monitor weekly. The Termidor is an almost instant cure and provides prevention for about 15 years.Termidor should take care of ALL subterranean termites even Formosan.Here is my advice, stay away from the Okin and Terminix, or any other large company especially if they offer, and brag about a repair guarantee.If you had damage in the future these companies will lawyer up on you in a heart beat. WebTermidor is an advanced undetectable liquid technology. Im not pro-anything. Find a company who has been around at least 15 20 years. Some said bait system is the way to go, some said both, one gave us both option but said that due to the distubance its best we go with termidor. Both products are equally effective. 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Anthony & Jim: I had to go through and cleanse the comments due to personal attacks, etc. We live deep down in termite country, and its time to think about extending our termite contract. You had no say in it. Long Plastic Funnel. I envision millions of tunnels throughout the garage walls.. May or may not be the case, but which system will be best for our situation? And do these estimates sound typical for 2012. Interesting reading. While the Oster T Finisher specializes with its precision, the Andis T Outliner specializes by providing pure power. The company that tried to sell me Sentricon proposed a $1600 installation with a $425 renewal for 268 lineal feet of foundation. Another words, Sentricon if you know you have termites, and Termidor to prevent getting them. The other 2 sides are surrounded by gravel. How is there any doubt remaining that thats going to be the better deal? If both cause some toxicity, what else is recommended. My question is if we are not finding fresh damage or signs of live termites anywhere, are we kidding ourselves to think that perhaps the termites have simply left the area and found a different place to feed or should we assume that since we had them at one time, we will have them again if we dont do something about it now? Insurance doesnt cover it, and home warranty doesnt cover it. The bait is much more expensive than the wood that was in there before. Also, I promise that the product I sell is the one I use on my own home and I am telling you honestly that I havent seen a bug within 100 miles of my pristine abode in 50 years thanks to a single application of my companys awesome safe green 100% effective (not-guaranteed) product. I have treated several thousand houses with Termidor during this 13 year period, without a single call back, reinfestation, or failure. WebAltriset is also proven to last longer than other termiticides, sometimes as much as twice as long. Anthony , you can pre-bait both . 3) Since TWO inspections missed extensive damage, should we continue checking inside walls anywhere we are worried about even if the inspectors say dont worry? What worries me is not knowing how extensive the garage damage is. Youve been helpful to me so I hate to put you on the spot Id just like to know if you yourself have actually used sentricon baits in this far north of a climate and had the results you are claiming? Or maybe just trench along the house to do partial treatment? Alternatively, liquid jobs (ie Termidor) costs more for the initial application and less for the annual inspection, but the cost difference is insignificant. I would call a local pest management firm that has been around awhile. No treatment will be necessary in the inside. This is very seldom successful for the "blind" subterranean termite workers. This means that many people are concerned with whether or not this kind of treatment will actually get rid of their termite problems. But if Im reading correctly he is saying termites are not attracted to wood lolTermites are attracted to wood, thats what they eatlike I have said baits or great for prevention. Any method of termite treatment is only as good as the vendor who installs/applies it. Answer: Altriset Termiticide and Termidor SC are both used as an outdoor treatment for termites. (Builder foreclosure). Murphys Law prevails. I plan to ask the company to come back to foam saturated the wall with Termidor or Premise. And whats with the arrogant attitude? I did pest control for a little while after college, and we used Advance bait stations. The result is 100% control in 3 months or less. Just my opinion..no way I let anyone dig around my entire house plus drill holes through the floors then pour chemical that they claim to last 15 years. Termidor kills yes, it is toxic and a danger to anyone with MCS Environmental Illness. WebTERMIDOR HE HIGH EFFICIENCY TERMITICIDE Revision date : 2014/10/01 Page: 6/11 Version: 1.0 (30629254/SDS_CPA_US/EN) Vapour pressure: approx. You might give the smaller company whose name you didnt recognize a call for a free inspection and free estimate and see what they say. Considering these limitations, Altriset is a better alternative because it is a quick-acting termiticide that effectively kills both the types of termites and prevents infestation. The wood in the station rots over time with too much moisture. However, sometimes, people dont want holes drilled through their stoops or tile floors or dont want 100s of gallons of pesticide injected around their homes. The answer is you. For my customers I only do baits as prevention. I did not know that was termite and did not call my termite company. Im aware that those of you who push sentricon in your business have a vested interest in protecting its name Im just wondering, how can I know for sure what to do. I live in a raised ranch in NY and have found termites in my basement. I cant find any Sentricon AG stations, which I think would be very helpful now (none of the previous discussions mentions these as a more immediate baiting treatment for active infestations why?) We use it. This was probably 1 1/2 yrs ago. There is no current termite infestation. I think it is going to be a very good product. Good luck! Once termites start feeding on these stakes, the stakes are removed and a bait tube is added. After ready all the back and forth for Sentricon and termidor I am still at a loss as to which is the best . It works by paralyzing the muscles of the termites. Through genuine Transfer Effect technology, termites transfer Termidor termiticide to other termites via social interaction. A few years ago Termidor HE, high efficiency, came out on the market. Anthony- I would be very careful about buying any of these products on line. Have not seen insects or damage there either. My intention is ONLY to advise a homeowner to do research before they drop a load of money on a system that simply will not work as well as a chemical treatment. I will say this- whoever you choose, make CERTAIN they have the ability to do both methods or you will be getting a VERY biased opinion. If the drill bit contacts any metal in the slab, it will cut off electricity to the drill and save the drill bit , not to mention plumbing lines, post tension cables, rebar, etc. Theyll stick to foraging low down in the ground and wont come up to the area where the station is located. DuPont ALTRISET Termite Control Product PDF Links Altriset is colorless, odorless and tasteless and works on a transfer effect through grooming and feeding. The new Sentricon (called Always Active) IS pre-baited. Again, the leading experts say that bait alone is not enough. When active termites enter the stations, bait is placed in the station. Termite baiting stations will not eliminate colonies of termitesperiod. And relax Jay, I dont think killing bugs is something to get a complex over anyway lol! How can you tell how safe a product is to use? The only people who question the effectiveness of Sentricon are those who never became authorized dealers. Why would I when Termidor is better anyway? Those signal words are on the bottle so you will know how toxic the product is. However, you are correct that it is important to choose a pest professional that will do what they say and has a good reputation. Amazing, isnt it? A professional pest control company may suggest using a combination of methods to eliminate termites and keep your home safe from this nuisance in the future. I recently sold a Termidor treatment on a house that had active termite tubes on almost every joist, the company I was bidding against was going to do a bait only with NO spot treatment..This customer asked me if I could do baits too.I told her that I could not in good conscious do baits on a home with that much activity..Two hours later I was checking another home with no activity, I recommended baits as a prevention. First of all, Advance is an old technology (9-10 yrs?). Id be especially interested to hear from the pros. This solution can be applied every 10 feet of trench around the property. The reason that your renewal fee did not drop is that the new technology involves baiting every station. This is a personal finance site where I write about my personal experiences. The name of this new product is Altriset and youre going to be hearing about more and more homeowners using it to treat termites in the coming years. Sentricon is only sold via Certified companies by DOW. 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