You saw what you saw. I looked at the picture and asked me what do you see in the picture and I wrote back. So I learned about what Rick just reported through a heart of heart of New Hampshire a letter and. So you want identifiable backgrounds. This is not the same as saying that there has never been a mountain lion seen in New Hampshire. Known to exist in the state for over well over a hundred years. Can we go to the site. Mountain lion or cat running across. Do they travel. Peter Biello: Sam I wanted to ask you a little bit about that first and then turn to Patrick Tate efficient game. Caller: It had to be a mountain lion convinced I was about 30. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. Sam. Patrick Tate: So Cougar Mountain Lion katama. Sam Evans-Brown: And when we talk about subspecies this actually leads to to an interesting tangent which is that the field of biology recently has been sort of revolutionized by the use of DNA to determine what subspecies are. My YouTube Channel NH Fish and Game YouTube Channel My Facebook Page My Weekly Live Stream on the NH Wildlife Federation FB Page Home About Eric 2022 NH Nature Notes NH Wildlife NH Wildlife Deer Deer in NH About two years ago I was at the Laconia airport on the way home from the airport and there's a big lake on one side called Lily Pond. I found a second scat scent both to him. They are the same thing. Now that to me seemed to indicate that they had done the secondary workup that in my opinion proved the existence of probably a disperse or possibly from South Dakota like the one in 2011. Mountain lions when they show up they leave evidence. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. Early in the morning. Patrick Tate: In theory it's a passing ball of a court and it goes wherever the bottom Ball wants to go. And those are not the same things. Join as a sustainer and support independent local news for your community. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. Caller: Oh yeah. I mean so what what is the practical change that it would bring to New Hampshire if any. It's unfortunate that that kind of thing happens as often as it does. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. The term is because mascots notwithstanding right that they're referred to with a lot of different terms and sometimes they can be confused with a lot of different terms. Sam Evans-Brown: You know the North America had a number of large predator species when humans first arrived in the continent. So give us a call now. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. So when we talk about the threshold of evidence required to say for sure you have seen a mountain lion it is rather high. So I think the point that I just want to get across is that there is a very strong sense this here in the and not region that there is that there is some sort of mountain lion population how large it is how extensive it is. Do we have native species that could have exhibited this type of behavior leaving leaving a deer carcass up in a tree. Absolutely there are a lot of folks out there who for some reason need to create something that raises a stir and gets the attention of the media etc.. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. I've had a number of people call up and say I found a scout in the woods and I want it DNA identified. Peter Biello: Worth mentioning if we're scaring anybody question a mysterious mountain lions lurking perhaps in someone's backyard. SUE Morse naturalist and science director for the organization keeping track. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. Rick van de Poll: Yes. The next day I crossed the river and took pictures of a paw print he left behind . So in fact, maybe a decade ago now there was a mountain lion killed in Connecticut and through DNA analysis of that mountain lion and scat that had been left in various places. I mean they're a survivor. You need you need either a really good photograph or you need you know fresh scat that can be sent to a lab out West that can they can be identified there. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. The nonbelievers are going to say Show us your evidence and show us prove this to us. When the federal Endangered Species Act came along, the Eastern Cougar (Puma concolor cougar), the subspecies of Mountain Lon ti hat orgi inally occurred It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. Absolutely. And just one more note about this danger question when even when you look at the states that have extended populations stable populations of mountain lions attacks are relatively rare. Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. Well let's talk a little bit about that. I just saw the head and the tail that was leaving. So what those ranges. You know one of the the biggest questions I have about that is it points to how much we don't know and if in fact we don't know enough. But the state always denies it, and none of us know why they deny it. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track. It's good to talk to you. What do you think that. So so do what you can get to do what you can to get proof. The cougar is also commonly known as mountain lion, puma, mountain cat, catamount, or panther. And I have to use that word allegedly because there is so much dispute about what people see and what they actually see. Think you've seen a mountain lion? Can you look into this picture. No evidence and other states where Mountain lights have turned up. Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. You could trace that was this same cat from point to point to point. Caller: I do. The next week, on June 11, the cat was hit and killed by an SUV on the Wilbur Cross Parkway in Milford. And when provoked no animal could stand before him elegantly put. There's these animals aren't coming with a map saying oh I want to go here. In Vermont, it was 1881. Let us know your story and share your photos. Patrick Tate: So it's interesting it's brought up. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. Having not found any evidence is not the same as saying there are no mountain lions, its the same as saying we dont know. Peter Biello: Well Mike thanks very much for sharing your story. Any sense of of whether or not mountain lions are sort of wary of more population dense areas like like the one he was describing Rick. Rick van de Poll: Absolutely. Peter Biello: We got an e-mail question from Robert in Epsom who asks are sightings or encounters with these big cats less dangerous here where they're passing through than out west where those same mountain lines might be establishing territory Rick. The DNA the DNA that they were able to pull from the cat suggested that it was a dispersed mountain lion that came. Right. We're gonna cue you up and bring into the program listeners in just a moment but I want to ask about the role that Mountain Lions play in the ecosystem we've been talking a lot about mountain lions traveling and being sort of hard to track as they move. He says when youve got a mountain lion in town, its kinda obvious. for some excitement. Less than a year later I found a scat on the swamp range and I was working at the time with a fellow at the Michigan wildlife habitat Federation. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. Caller: And then there's the Lily Pond Road and then there's a six foot tall fence. The New Hampshire lion has become something of the state's own Big Foot, commonly discussed and rumored but never confirmed; at least, not since the 1850s, when the last mountain lion in the . But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could. My wife and I saw a mountain lion. Mountain lions live in the state. I've collected scat samples I've got several in my collection. Sam Evans-Brown: Well and I think and the last takeaway here is everyone I think probably agrees that any possible sightings that have been seen. So Marty can you see what I'm getting at is the public sees different names and thinks that they're different animals but it's all the same animal. A middle school in Manchester, New Hampshire has sent out an alert after a mountain lion was spotted. New Hampshire Public Radio | This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. We're going to talk a little bit more about habitat first but then we'll get into sightings. Don't miss your chance to win three two thousand dollar gas gift cards at any station of your choice not to mention the grand prize twenty five thousand dollars toward a new car. Well thanks for sharing. Deer manages to free itself from the claws of a mountain lion in Alpine, California. Peter Biello: Ok weird question but do they make good pets. Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. So I've been convinced the whole time that I saw a big cougar plume or whatever you want to call it standing there in the road in Greenfield. So we tossed these terms around but really the term subspecies has been sort of redefined in our lifetimes. Sam Evans-Brown has been working for New Hampshire Public Radio since 2010, when he began as a freelancer. The American Lion The Saber tooth Tiger and this was the one that survived. They sent it already. Based on this blurry photo and pawprints, DEEP confirmed it was likely a mountain lion. Sue Morse: First and foremost if you have color or if you could see details of color look at the front of the face around the Pumas muzzle the muzzle itself is pure white. Peter Biello: So let's say Rick that it was confirmed that there that there are mountain lines here in New Hampshire. Well let me ask maybe Pat and Rick about this. It was some sort of a Lion Mountain Lion animal. Peter Biello: Hmm. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. There are also many unconfirmed sightings. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. Thank you very much for listening. The western mountain lion lives in a more of a grassland open area now so to blend in with a very lighted situation here in the Northeast we are very shadowy dark situation because of the forest and our cats wear a darker brownish reddish color than what they were and they were also smaller than what the western mountain lion is. So. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. 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